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    Default Great Saints Tries - No.4 - Article

    What can I tell you? I have had a lot of time on my hands at work this week. This won't continue at this rate, I promise. For now here's Shane Cooper's stunner against Leeds from a Challenge Cup tie in 1992....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Pc6kvCeeI

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    Love the way the Leeds player is in Bishop's face then scarpers sharpish when Wardy comes in.

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    What are the chances of having a winger on the bench nowadays

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    Awesome try. Just count those passes! One of my favourites

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    That must be both passes of Jon Griffith's career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lee.ashtonsaint View Post
    Awesome try. Just count those passes! One of my favourites
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    That can't be true, all those professional players at Saints
    Good to watch though.

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    This is why I loved rugby league. Can anybody see that type of play being encouraged by any of today’s coaches. We have just watched a World Cup final where two teams cancelled each other out. Today that movement would have ended by someone ‘finding the floor’ or if not the video ref would have taken ages looking at the minute detail of every off load.

    Sorry but I am on a bit of a downer after this morning, but that clip both cheered me up and put me back down, where has the flare gone.

    Oh and BRING BACK THE BIFF

    Oh and wingers that ran on the OUTSIDEof their man
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    Quote Originally Posted by maghullsaint View Post
    What are the chances of having a winger on the bench nowadays
    As much chance as a prop playing 80 minutes

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    That's the way rugby league should be played, none of these dummy runners obstructing defenders in front of the ball player

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    That's why I love RL

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    Just a quick one,and I am sure I am posting in the wrong area but I haven't got a clue how Tapatalk works, does anyone know the best place to buy tickets for magic (as in near the Saints fans) I am buying some as a gift for Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulx2 View Post
    Just a quick one,and I am sure I am posting in the wrong area but I haven't got a clue how Tapatalk works, does anyone know the best place to buy tickets for magic (as in near the Saints fans) I am buying some as a gift for Christmas.

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    You seriously need to get out Christmas shopping pal ! What a fantastic RL player Shane Cooper was.If only we had one of those.......see if you can find one when you are shopping 07?
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    Shane Cooper moved like he was running in treacle, but was always two or three plays ahead of the opposition. Could read a game like nobody else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Don View Post
    You seriously need to get out Christmas shopping pal ! What a fantastic RL player Shane Cooper was.If only we had one of those.......see if you can find one when you are shopping 07?
    Sorry it has taken me half an hour to get back to you Don. I was out Christmas shopping. There are 20 days to Christmas, you know? Not nearly long enough to unearth a diamond like Shane Cooper. What if we put a false tash on Wilko?

    No. Didn't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chief View Post
    Shane Cooper moved like he was running in treacle, but was always two or three plays ahead of the opposition. Could read a game like nobody else.
    Him and Tommy Martyn were both very similar players I think, although Martyn was obviously quicker. They are two of the smartest players we've ever had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakariki View Post
    Him and Tommy Martyn were both very similar players I think, although Martyn was obviously quicker. They are two of the smartest players we've ever had.
    Don't think Martyn was quicker than Cooper, neither had any pace to talk of

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chief View Post
    Shane Cooper moved like he was running in treacle, but was always two or three plays ahead of the opposition. Could read a game like nobody else.
    The thing about Cooper was that everyone else seemed to slow down to his pace when he had the ball. He always had all the time he wanted.

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    My dad hated Shane Cooper! The gist of it was that Cooper was soft, would never take a tackle and was not a proper player “he’ll play till e’s 100 that mon! Everyone else does his dirty work!” Etc etc. In retrospect I suspect it was as much that he wasn’t Harry Pinner. Well sorry pop, but Cooper looked really good in this game! Fortunately the old fella dosen't get on line so I think I’m safe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by st.david View Post
    My dad hated Shane Cooper! The gist of it was that Cooper was soft, would never take a tackle and was not a proper player “he’ll play till e’s 100 that mon! Everyone else does his dirty work!” Etc etc. In retrospect I suspect it was as much that he wasn’t Harry Pinner. Well sorry pop, but Cooper looked really good in this game! Fortunately the old fella dosen't get on line so I think I’m safe!
    Sign of a good half back. Bill Ashurst was another. Every player covered in mud. Not Bill. Jersey clean as a whistle. Another very clever stand off. I think many of us remember playing against Widnes away. An extra ball somehow was on the pitch, Cooper played the wrong ball and made a break. Unfortunately the ref was one of the few who spotted it and I think he got a ban for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert80 View Post
    Sign of a good half back. Bill Ashurst was another. Every player covered in mud. Not Bill. Jersey clean as a whistle. Another very clever stand off. I think many of us remember playing against Widnes away. An extra ball somehow was on the pitch, Cooper played the wrong ball and made a break. Unfortunately the ref was one of the few who spotted it and I think he got a ban for it.
    Ashurst was a 2nd Rower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHANNEL22 View Post
    Ashurst was a 2nd Rower.

    If you get the chance to read his book I recommend it
    Sorry wrong Bill. I was referring of course to Bill Francis. Very clever player.

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    It's only when you look back over the years that you really do appreciate the truly gifted RL player.Cooper was one of them in my opinion.He had a real RL brain and knew where the space was and could create his own.

    Any others like him spring to mind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Don View Post
    It's only when you look back over the years that you really do appreciate the truly gifted RL player.Cooper was one of them in my opinion.He had a real RL brain and knew where the space was and could create his own.

    Any others like him spring to mind?
    I am one of those who thinks RL was a much better spectacle in those days but just to play Devil's Advocate you watch those clips and one of the most noticeable things is the standard of defending. Defences were far less well organised in those days and massive strides have been made in that area of the game in my opinion. Would a player like Cooper have been able to operate in quite the same way against the more modern defensive structures with their line speed?

    Also, there was far less messing about at the play the ball allowed in those days. When you watch you also notice that there is hardly any third man in rubbish in defence. When a third man does come into the tackle it invariably created a gap, but now the teams are so well organised defensively that they can send in three and still maintain a strong, disciplined line of defence. All of which is killing the spectacle but in a professional era coaches are always going to do what it takes to win.

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